James "Whistling" ORR

James "Whistling" ORR

Male 1743 - 1829  (85 years)

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  • Name James "Whistling" ORR 
    Born 24 Jun 1743  , Mecklenburg, North Carolina, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Reference Number
    _UID 09B5AFF505A6544DB50C6C4D568308E8F167 
    Died 17 Mar 1829  , Mecklenburg, North Carolina, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I225  SteveParker
    Last Modified 29 Nov 2018 

    Father Charles ORR,   b. 1700, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 20 Jun 1788, , Mecklenburg, North Carolina, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 88 years) 
    Mother Jean ANDREW 
    Married Abt 1725  Of, Kilmaurs, Ayr, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    _UID 5CE66345288C0942A98A389BF8079731B66E 
    Family ID F143  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Margaret "Jane" LEMMOND,   b. 6 Sep 1758, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 2 Mar 1829, , Mecklenburg, North Carolina, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 70 years) 
    Married 6 Jun 1785  North Carolina, United States Find all individuals with events at this location 
    _UID 977ED5426E32004F9B99CC2CD404EC8B9651 
    Children 
     1. Robert ORR,   b. 30 Jul 1786, Mecklenburg, North Carolina, USA Find all individuals with events at this location
     2. Sarah Ann ORR,   b. 6 Sep 1788, Mecklenburg, North Carolina, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1840, Kershaw County, South Caroling, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age > 53 years)
     3. Elizabeth ORR,   b. 12 Jan 1791,   d. Aug 1873, Madison County, Illinois, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 82 years)
     4. Susannah ORR,   b. 21 Oct 1793, Rutherford, North Carolina, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 11 May 1857, , Pulaski, Missouri, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 63 years)
     5. Joseph Lemond ORR,   b. 27 Oct 1796
     6. Silas Gilbright ORR,   b. 22 Oct 1799, North Carolina, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 25 Feb 1885, , Mecklenburg, North Carolina, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 85 years)
    Last Modified 29 Mar 2021 
    Family ID F142  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Sarah McCONNELL,   b. 1747, Mecklenburg, North Carolina, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 29 Mar 1783, Mecklenburg, North Carolina, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 36 years) 
    Married 5 Sep 1770 
    _UID 4675614DA8E810468B3E1172854CDBBD0475 
    Children 
     1. William ORR,   b. 22 Aug 1771,   d. 1861  (Age 89 years)
     2. Matthew ORR,   b. 24 Feb 1773
     3. James ORR,   b. 26 Sep 1774
     4. John ORR,   b. 26 Sep 1776, North Carolina, United States Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Jan 1854, North Carolina, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 77 years)
     5. Thomas ORR,   b. 23 Apr 1778
     6. Isaac ORR,   b. 29 Nov 1779
    Last Modified 29 Mar 2021 
    Family ID F144  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • Could be Ireland?
      Again, I do not know if this belongs. I am simply piecing others hard work to determine our family line.
      "60. James Orr, born 24 Jun 1743 in Ireland434, 435; died 17 Mar 1829 in Mecklenburg Co., NC436, 437. He married 61. Margaret Jane Lemmond 06 Jun 1785438. 61. Margaret Jane Lemmond, born 06 Sep 1758 in Centre Church area, Davidson Creek, Rowan Co., NC438,439, 440; died 02 Mar 1829 in Mecklenburg Co., NC441. She was the daughter of 122. William Marr Lemmond and 123. Margaret Buchanan?. Notes for James Orr: Before coming to North Carolina, James Orr lived in Pennsylvania and was a weaver by trade. [See Mecklenburg County Deed Book 5:305) James Orr was a private in Captain Charles Polk's Mecklenburg County Militia Company during the American Revolutionary War. [Ronald M. Lemmond, research, (1 May 1998)] James Orr was listed in the tax lists in Captain Hood's Company of Mecklenburg County, North Carolina in 1797, 1798, 1799, 1806 and 1807. [Ronald M. Lemmond, research, (1 May 1998)] Mecklenburg County, NC Deed Book 13, pp 916. 15 Apr 1783. James Orr and wf Jane (X) to William Blair, for £300 current NC money, 140 A in 5 separate surveys viz: (1-3) 55 A in three parcels, the first on Goose Cr., the second adj. the first, and the third on Crooked Cr. Sd parcels were granted by Gov. Abner Nash to Joseph Galbreath 25 Mar 1772, then deeded to Thomas Polk 13 Mar 1775. (4) 13 A on Goose Cr adj the parcels on that stream listed under (1). (5) 72 A also on Goose Cr. Wit: James Wilson and Wm. Polk. Ack in Jul 1791 Ct by Orr. Isaac Alexander, CMC. [Herman W. Ferguson, Genealogical Deed Abstracts Mecklenburg County, North Carolina Books 10-14, (Herman W. Ferguson, Rocky Mount, NC: 1995), 100] There was more than one James Orr living in Goose Creek township, and several in Mecklenburg County. James Orr and wife Margaret are buried at Philadelphia Presbyterian Church, and are not the same couple as James Orr and wife Margaret Jane Lemmond who lived in the same area. In order to differentiate between three James Orrs living in the same area, the tax rolls named James Orr husband of Jane Lemmond as James "Whistling" Orr. Also listed were James "Jockey" Orr and James Orr "Heretic." The following land transactions refer to more than one James Orr. SELECTED ENTRIES FROM REAL ESTATE CONVEYANCES - MECKLENBURG COUNTY, NC: 1787, Oct: Margaret & James Orr deed to Will'm Simpson, 82 A Crooked Creek, 13:165 1791, Mar: Joseph Galbreath deed to James Orr, 80 A both sides Goose Creek, 14:3 1791, Mar: Joseph Galbreath deed to James Orr, 13 A Goose Creek, 14:4 1791, July: James & Jane Orr deed to William Blair, 140 A 3 Tracts Goose & Crooked Crks, 13:916 1812, June: Alexander Orr deed to William Piron, 220 A Crooked Creek, 19:652 1812, 6-8: James Orr deed to David Orr, 165 A Crooked Creek, 19:653 1814, 2-3: Mathew Orr et al (Lands) Sheriff's Deed to John Black, 126 A 2 Tracts Goose Creek, 19:782 1814, 10-4: James Orr deed to John Gingles, 150 A Goose Creek, 20:36 1818, 10-17: David Orr deed to Thomas Mynard, 115 A Crooked Creek, 19:46 1821, 5-6: James Orr deed to Jos L Orr, Goose Creek, 19:308 1823, 7-3: David, Matthew, John Orr et al Sheriff's Deed to James & Wm Morris, 135 A Racoon Branch & Goose Crk, MecklenburgCo, 21:31 1825, 1-26: Joseph L Orr deed to Silas Orr, 100 A Goose Creek, 21:139 1830, 3-22: Silas Orr deed to John Orr, 100 A Goose Creek, 21:629 1830, 9-20: Silas Orr deed to John Orr, 50 A Goose Creek, 22:10 1837, 2-13: Nathan Orr deed to James C. Orr, 70 A Goose Creek, 24:190 1869, 9-28: James J. Orr deed to Wm Bain, 109 1/2 A Goose Creek, 6:430 More About James Orr: 1790 Federal Census: 1790, Mecklenburg Co., NC Church Membership: Philadelphia Presbyterian Church, Mint Hill, Mecklenburg Co., NC442 Dwelling: 228 acre farm on Goose Creek, present Union Co., NC443 Military service: Soldier in NC Line, Revolutionary War.444 More About Margaret Jane Lemmond: Church Membership: Philadelphia Presbyterian Church, Mint Hill, Mecklenburg Co., NC445 More About James Orr and Margaret Lemmond: Marriage: 06 Jun 1785446 Children of James Orr and Margaret Lemmond are:
      i. Ro bert Orr, born 30 Jul 1786446,447; died Unknown. ii. S arah Ann Orr, born 06 Sep 1788448,449; died Unknown; married Edward M. Bronson 06 Mar 1813 in Mecklenburg Co., NC450,451; died Unknown. More About Edward Bronson and Sarah Orr: Bondsman 1: Wm. Faires Bondsman 2: Wm. Faires Marriage: 06 Mar 1813, Mecklenburg Co., NC452,453 iii. Elizabeth Orr, born 17 Jan 1791454,455; died Unknown; married William Faires 04 Jan 1813 in Mecklenburg Co., NC456; born 05 Aug 1789 in Virginia457; died 14 Feb 1855457. Notes for William Faires: Possibly a brother of Robert FAIRES. More About William Faires and Elizabeth Orr: Bondsman: Joseph Hayes Marriage: 04 Jan 1813, Mecklenburg Co., NC458 iv. Susannah Orr, born 20 Oct 1793 in North Carolina459,460 ; died 11 May 1857 in Pulaski, Missouri461; married Robert Faires 22 May 1816 in Mecklenburg Co., NC461,462; born 15 Aug 1798 in Rutherford Co., NC463,464; died 22 Nov 1855 in Pulaski Co., MO465,466. Notes for Robert Faires: Possibly a brother of William FAIRES. "A group of settlers from Giles Co., TN settled in 1836 at Onyx, on Osage Fork of the Gasconade River in Pulaski Co., MO. These included the leader, John W. Alexander and wife Rebecca Brownlow, some Grisbys and Robert Faires and family." [information from Grigsby Genealogy Society, shared with me by Remona Turner, research] "Quotation from Robert Faires' Bible - Robert Faires and Susannah Orr was married May the 23d day, 1816 and lived in North Carolina from that time to the 16th day of November 1831, which was the day we started to move to the West, Tennessee, and landed at Campbellsville on the 20th day of December 1831. We lived there from that time until the 1st day of September 1836 then we steard our cours on West to the State of Missouri, Pulaski Cty. Landed at Onyx on the Osage fork of Gasconade River on the 4th day of December in the same year." [Marjorie B. Helmholz, research, 16 Apr 1972] More About Robert Faires: Burial: Unknown, Phillips Cem, Dry Knob, Laclede Co., MO467 More About Robert Faires and Susannah Orr: Bondsman: Joseph L. Orr Marriage: 22 May 1816, Mecklenburg Co., NC468,469 v. Joseph Lemmond Orr, born 27 Oct 1796470,471; died Bef. 1850472; married Nancy Morris 07 Jan 1823 in Mecklenburg Co., NC473; born Abt. 1805474; died Unknown. Notes for Joseph Lemmond Orr: 1830 Federal Census, Morgan Co., Alabama Orr, Jos L 2 males 0-5 1 male 5-10 1 male 30-40 1 female 20-30 More About Nancy Morris: 1850 Federal Census: Morgan Co., AL - #266/253 Property: 1850, $300474 More About Joseph Orr and Nancy Morris: Marriage: 07 Jan 1823, Mecklenburg Co., NC475 30 vi. Silas Gilbright Orr, Sr., born 22 Oct 1799 in North Carolina; died 25 Feb 1885 in Mecklenburg Co., NC; married Mary Flavilla Alexander Abt. 1829." http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/j/o/h/Donna-J-Johnson/GENE74-0020.h tml


      ORR RESEARCH

      "Mechlenberg Co. NC Deeds, Vol 1-1763-1768" 975.676
      LDS Family History Library, Salt Lake City. R2h

      BK 9 p189-192- 12 Jan 1767 George Augustus Selwyn of Gloucester Co.
      Kingdom of Great Britain (as son and heir of John Selwyn decd.).......King
      George II did grant of 3 Mar 1745 (O.S.) 100,000 acres on waters of
      Santee or Catawba on Johnson or Rocky River called tract #3 (also
      included Sugar Creek)

      BK 9 p318-321 -By the King, A Proclamation -Wheras complaint hath been by
      several nations and tribes of Indians bordering upon our colonies and
      plantations.....that settlements are being made upon their land and
      conveyances illegally....

      BK 9 p208- 7 Jan 1767 Selwyn to William Orr of Mechlen County, for L6,
      230 acres on headwaters of Sugar Creek

      BK 9 p240- 7 Jan 1767 Selwyn to Nathan Orr of Mechlen Co, planter, L50
      440 acres on Abram Alexanders Mill Creek, the head waters of
      Sugar Creek, Adj William Orr

      BK 9 p248- 7 Jan 1767 Selwyn to Nathan Orr Jr. of Mechlen Co., planter,
      L28, 260 acres on head waters of Abram Alexander's Mill Creek,
      adjNathan Orr Sr.

      Bk 9 p217- 7 Jan 1767 Selwyn to James Orr Sr. of Mechlen Co., planter,
      L60, 545 acres adj John McNils line, adj Nathan Orr, Abram
      Alexander

      BK 8 p159-60 6 Jun 1768 John Orr of Mech Co. to Alexander McCarter of
      same for L14, 160 acres granted to said Orrr 26 Oct 1767 on
      So Branch of North Fork Tyger River


      "Deed Abstracts Mechlenberg Co. NC, Books 10-14 975.676
      LDS Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah R2f

      James Orr

      Above book Land Rec Ref.
      p45 #475 BK 11 p269 4 Jul 1783 James Jack to James Orr for L400
      current NC money, lot 25 in town of Charlotte on W
      corner of Trade and Tryon Sts

      p46 #488 Bk 11 p300 10 Apr 1781 James Norris to James Orr for L 500
      NC money, 297 acres surveyed Apr 1765 from tract
      #3 on Branch of Sugar Creek

      p78 #864 Bk 12 p572 20 Nov 1783, lot 25 Charlotte, near courthouse for
      L300, James Orr to Samuel Martin

      p97 #1073 BK 13 p165 8 Sep 1785, Jas Orr and wf Margaret X to
      Willm Simpson for L60, 82 acres on both sides of
      Crooked Creek, Ack in Oct 1787 Ct by James Orr,
      Sam Martin, CMC

      p98 #1081 BK 13 p180 25 Jun 1781 Thomas Martindale to James Orr, for
      L70 proc, 82 acres on both sides of Crooked Creek of
      Rocky River and being the land purchased from Chas
      Pollock to whom it was granted by Gov. Arthur Dobbs

      p150 #1683 Bk 13 p916 15 Apr 1783, James Orr and wife Jane X to
      William Blair for L300 current NC money, 140 acres
      in 5 separate surveys, viz (1-3) 55 acres in three
      parcels, the first on Goose Creek, the second adj the
      first, the third on Crooked Creek, Said parcels were
      granted by Gov Abner Nash to Joseph Galbreath 25
      Mar 1772 then deeded to Thomas Polk 13 Mar 1775
      (4) 13 acres on Goose Creek adj the parcels on that
      stream listed under (1). (5) 72 acres also on Goose
      Creek. Ack in July 1791

      p155 #1713 Bk 14 p3 22 Mar 1791 Joseph Galbreath to James Orr for
      L100, 80 acres on both sides Goose Creek of Rocky
      River.

      p155 #1714 BK 14 p4 22 Mar 1781 (could be 1791?) Joseph Galbreath to
      James Orr, 13 acres on Goose Creek -certain mineral
      rights reserved.

      p179 #2001 Bk 14 p237 28 Aug 1795 State grant 1270 to Thos Weir on
      Clear Creek adj Jas Orr

      p185 #2072 Bk 14 p274 9 Jul 1794 State grant 1150 to ? on Mallard Creek
      adj Jas Orr

      p191 #2144 BK 14 p308 7 Sep 1799 State grant 1510 to Sam Davis on Little
      Sugar Creek adj Nathan and James Orr

      p201 #2260 BK 14 p388 23 Jul 1793, James Orr to Wm Black,
      wagonmaker, for L133, two tracts on Sugar Creek,
      viz (1) 108 acres, adj Wm & Martha (decd)Orr
      and (2) 25 acres adj Wm & Martha Orr, Hezekiah
      Alexander, James Hise and Nathan Orr. Said tract was
      granted to James Orr 22 Oct 1782 by the state, ack
      in July 1793 Ct by James Orr.
      James Orr Jr.

      p95 #1048 Bk 13 p121 10 Feb 1785, James Orr Jr. to John Wiley for L400
      current NC money, 437 acres in 4 tracts on
      McAlpine Creek, viz (1) 143 acres being part of
      tract no 3 that on 10 Jan 1767 was conveyed by
      Henry Eustace McCulloh to Thos Polk who on 15 Feb
      1768 deeded it to Jas and Wm Holland who deeded it
      to Orr 4 Sep 1783. (2) 100 acres adj Wm Holland
      and McCulwee-orig conveyed to Polk who deeded it to
      James Holland, who conveyed it to Wm Holland, who
      deeded it to Orr 4 Sep 1783, 138 acres on Campbell
      Br.
      Robert Orr

      p80 #884 Bk 12 p609 25 Jan 1786, John Nutt &wife Catherine to Robert
      Orr & Thomas Sackey for L40 proc. 300 acres on
      Waxhaw Cr.
      Nathan Orr

      p24 #251 Bk 10 p490 20 Sep 1779 ... head of Reedy Cr. adj Nathan Orr

      p87 #978 Bk 12 p717 7 Aug 1787 ...on Plum run adj Nathan Orr.

      p131 #1475 Bk 13 p 632 21 Apr 1788 John Garrison for James Sawer to
      Nathan Orr, Andrew Alexander, Thomas Alexander,
      Elijah Alexander and Matthew Alexander as security
      to the Mecklenberg Co. Ct. for Garrison who conveys
      to the grantees 300 acres in the Indian lands of York
      Co. SC on both sides of Steel Creek, the mill pond and
      incl Garrison's improvements, 99 yr lease as 300
      acres is part of a tract lately seized from the
      Catawba Indians.

      p191 #2144 BK 14 p308 7 Sep 1799 State grant .... 18 acres on Little Sugar
      Cr. adj Nathan and James Orr
      Nathan Orr Sr.

      p47 #500 Bk 12 p7 22 Oct 1782 State grant 186 issued at Fairfield vol
      42 p 280 at 50 shillings the 100 acres to Nathan
      Orr Sr. 299 acres on Sugar & Mallard Creeks on
      both sides of the Great Rocky Td. and adj Ezekial
      Alexander, Joseph Allen, and other lands of Orr.

      p115 #1296 BK 13 p360 22 Oct 1782 State grant 235 issued at Fairfield vo
      42 p317 at 50 shillings the 100 acres to Nathan
      Orr Sr. 46 acres on Sugar Creek adj other lands of
      Orr, and Ezekiel Alexander.

      CEMETARY RECORDS FOR SUGAR CREEK PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, CHARLOTTE,NC

      Orr, Nathan d. 22 Aug 1849 age 76 yrs
      Orr, Catherine, wife of Nathan Orr d. 31 Aug 1831 age 35 years
      Orr Elizabeth M. infant of N. & C. Orr d 18 Nov 1831 age 11 mo 9 days

      1850 Mortality Sched NC, Mecklenberg Co.

      Nathan Orr age 78 , male, Married, Sept 1850, chronic consumption

      Minutes of the Court of Common Pleas, Mecklenberg, NC
      LDS Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah F975.676
      P2fh

      BK 2 p237 Jan 1789 Ordered that William Orr serve as overseer of the road
      from the crossroads towards old camp and to work there on the
      hands of Nathan Orr Jr, Nathan Orr Sr, James Orr,
      Joseph Pharis and more.


      BK 3 p139 Oct 1793 State vs William Orr - Jury sworn , verdict not guilty

      " " " James Orr vs Geo Allen - same jury, verdict L37.4.0 it
      being the legacy left by his father to his sister, Jane
      Allen now Jane Orr and costs.

      BK 4 p28 Apr1797 The last will and testament of William Orr deceased was
      proven by William Black on evidence and admitted to
      record James Wilson, Robert Robison and Rebecca Orr, the
      executors named in said will came into court and was
      qualified as such ( ed. note- this will is not of record in
      Mecklenberg County)

      BK 4 p 140 Jan1799 An inventory of estate of William Orr (not included)

      BK 4 p196 Jan 1800 An inventory of estate and amt of sale of Wm Orr was
      returned by exect amt L649.99

      Will of James Whistling Orr
      Will of James Orr of Mecklenburg County North Carolina. This is a typed copy, due to difficulty in reading the handwriting, of the will from Will Book E Pages 48 and 49 housed in the Charlotte North Carolina Archives of the Probate Office. In the name of God Amen. I James Orr of the County of Mecklenburg and State of No. Carolina being weak in body but of perfect mind and memory thanks be to God therefore calling to mind the mortality of my body I knowing that it is _______________________ The same in the following manner and form Viz. I give and bequeath William Orr my beloved son the sum of five shillings, then I give Nathan Orr my beloved son one bay mare, one cow, one heifer and one yearling steer. Then, I give and bequeath unto Jean Mitchell my daughter one sorrel mare, one cow, one heifer and one yearling and one ?, then I give and bequeath unto Charles Orr by beloved son a sum of ten pounds if demanded by him within two years after my demise, but if not it is my will and pleasure that this legacy be equally divided between my two sons Nathan and James. Then I give and bequeath unto James Orr my beloved son all that ? or tract of lands on which I live to him his heirs ? forever farther my wife and pleasure that after the payment of all my just ? and the labor mentioned legacies that the remainder of all my state the property of my said son James Orr and I do hereby ? and appoint my sons Nathan Orr and James Orr my sole executors of my last will and testament and do hereby utterly disallow ________ Other former wills, testaments and executors in any wise named willed ?, unearthed before, Ratifying and confirming this and no other to be my last Will and Testament , in witness where of I the said James Orr have hereunto set my hand. Seal this 16th. Day of February 1778. Sealed pronounced and declared by James Orr as his last will and testament in presence of: Nathan Orr } Agnis Allen } James Orr ---------Seal Hez. Herandes }

  • Sources 
    1. [S44] International Genealogical index, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
      Charles Orr; Male; Birth: About 1700 Of, Kilmaurs, Ayr, Scotland; Spouse: Jean ANDREW; Marriage: About 1725 Of, Kilmaurs, Ayr, Scotland
      Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church.
      Search performed using PAF Insight on 08 Apr 2006