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• _UID: 238538154DD65949A37E75258CC81CB4996A

Family/Spouse: Alberta"Bertha" Elizabeth ROBLIN. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• _UID: 66FF25740E688B4EABE248D18CD20555ABD7

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Casualty of the Civil War

Lorenzo married Rhoda Ann SLY on 11 May 1853 in , Eaton, Michigan, United States. Rhoda (daughter of William Wesley SLY and Ashsah "Axie" DAVIS) was born on 14 May 1834 in , Livingston, Michigan, United States; died on 30 Mar 1928 in Mulliken, Eaton, Michigan, United States; was buried in Walled Lake Cem, Walled Lake, Oakland, Michigan, United States. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• _UID: 8CAF74C2070CC74288EBD6ABE65E8B4A9A3D

Notes:

!NOTE:2nd marriage:Benson Withey, one child of this marriage was George Withey.
George Withey married Grace Torrence and was living in Flint Michigan in 1963.
!SOURCE: marriage sealing batch # M518372, call # 966594

1860 United States Federal Census
Name: Lorenzo Jones
Age in 1860: 32
Birth Year: abt 1828
Birthplace: New York
Home in 1860: Oneida, Eaton, Michigan
Gender: Male
Post Office: Grand Ledge
Household Members: Name Age
Lorenzo Jones 32
Rhoda A Jones 28
Loiza Jones 14
Wm Jones 6
Caroline Jones 3

1870 United States Federal Census
Name: Benson B Withey
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Age in 1870: 36
Birthplace: Michigan
Home in 1870: West Bloomfield, Oakland, Michigan
Race: White
Gender: Male farm labor
Family: Ann 37, William Jones 17, Caroline Jones 14, Harris Jones 10
Post Office: Pontiac

1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Benson B. Withey
Home in 1880: Novi, Oakland, Michigan
Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Birthplace: Michigan
Relation to head-of-household: Self (Head)
Spouse's name: Roda A.
Father's birthplace: MI
Mother's birthplace: MI
Occupation: Laborer
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Cannot read/write: Blind: Deaf and dumb: Otherwise disabled: Idiotic or insane:
Household Members: Name Age
Benson B. Withey 46
Roda A. Withey 46
George Withey 10
Frank Withey 5
Cyrus Jones 21

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• FamilySearch Id: K24C-96Q
• Occupation: Blacksmith
• Reference Number: *
• _UID: 594E9FF12258944695EDD52AD799473CFF93

Notes:

Timeline for William Wesley Sly:

1807 Oct 22, William Wesley born in New York
1823 William's mother, Lodema died in Hopewell, New York
1842 Jul 17, William married Elizabeth Morris in Commerce, Oakland, Michigan,
1848 Jul 9, son, William Wesley born in Walled Lake, Oakland, Michigan
1852 Aug 1852, son, Lester Alonzo born in Orchard Lake, Oakland, MIchigan
1854 son, Alvannah Loren born in Michigan
1856 son, Daniel born in Grand Ledge, Eaton, Michigan,
1858 son, George Albert born in Grand Ledge, Eaton, Michigan,
1860 daughter, born in Michigan
1863 Jan 11, William died in Commerce, Oakland County, Michigan, at the age of 66

William Sly and Elizabeth Morris were married 17 July 1842 in Commerce, Oakland County, Michigan. William had been married previously to Ashah Davis, and they had 2 children, Anna and Rhoda. William and Elizabeth had 1 child, William when living in Hamburg, Michigan in 1850. By 1860 they lived in Oneida, Michigan and had 4 more boys, Lester, Alvanus, Daniel, and George. They also had a daughter, Hattie, who is not listed in the census but is listed as age 5 in 1863 Isabella County Probate Records for William Sly: "The petition of Elizabeth BROWN widow of William Sly, late of said county (Isabella), deceased, respectfully showeth that on or about the first day of Jan. 1863, The said William Sly died leaving goods and clothing, rights, credits, and real estate in the county, aforesaid, and that to the best of the knowledge and belief of your petitioner no last will and testament was left by the said William Sly, deceased. That the deceased has left a widow, Elizabeth Brown, your petitioner, age 37 years and six children: William, age 18, Lester, age 15, Alvan age 13, Daniel age 12, George, age 9, and Hattie, age 5: and that the deceased was immediately at his death an inhabitant of said county. Your petitioner therefore prays that letters of administration be granted on the estate of the said William Sly and that Philander Harnes may be appointed administration. signed with her X 28 July 1863."
William Wesley Sly was born 22 October 1807 in New York. He was the1st of 7 children born to Christopher Sly and Lodemia Mack. His mother died in 1823 when William was just short of 16 years of age. They were then living in Hopewell, New York near Palmyra.

This story was told by a grand daughter in law of William: " The Indians around Walled Lake (Michigan) called William Sly the `strong man' because every time the Indians went through Walled Lake, they had to shake hands all around. He got so tired of shaking hands that he started to squeeze their hands real tight so that it would hurt and they wouldn't ask to shake hands anymore. Hence he earned the name `the strong man'. William was a big, powerful man. He was a blacksmith, thus his strength. He died 11 Jan 1863 in Commerce, Oakland County, Michigan, at the age of 66.

Elizabeth Morris was born about 1820 in Ireland. She was the last of 6 children of William Morris and Jane Crawford. She immigrated to America with her parents and 2 sisters in 1830 possibly from Antrim, Ireland. A sister and 2 brothers had preceded them that year. About 1835 the family moved to Oakland County, Michigan. In January 1863 Elizabeth's husband died and in August of the same year she lost her 2 brothers, becoming their heir. The next year 4 October 1864 at Detroit, Michigan Elizabeth Sly married Sylvester C. Brown. They were both of Royal Oak, Michigan. He was 39 and she was 33.
The children were all in Isabella County in 1865. Sylvester Brown and wife, Rosannah, took care of Hattie, Daniel, and George. Mr. Brown submitted a bill for food and clothing 7 June 1869. (Could this be the parents of Elizabeth Sly's 2nd Husband, Sylvester C Brown?)
Elizabeth died about 1879 in Michigan.

Oakland Co, MI and Isabella Co. vital and probate records.
pg 141, family 114 Call # 0803542

1850 United States Federal Census Record
Name: Wm Sly
Age: 33 Blacksmith
Estimated birth year: abt 1817
Birth place: New York
Gender: Male wife Elizabeth age 38 born Ireland, son William age 1 born Michigan
Home in 1850 (City,County,State): Hamburg, Livingston, Michigan

1860 United States Federal Census Record about William Sly
Name: William Sly
Age in 1860: 52
Birth Year: abt 1808
Birthplace: New York
Home in 1860: Oneida, Eaton, Michigan
Gender: Male
Post Office: Grand Ledge
Value of real estate: real $500 personal $200
Household Members: Name Age
William Sly 52 Blacksmith
Elizabeth Sly 33 bn Ireland could not read or write
Wm W Sly 12 MI
Lester Sly 8 MI
Alvanus Sly 7 MI (Alvanuh)
Daniel Sly 6 MI
George Sly 3 MI
(no Hattie in 1860 census, but William's estate in Eaton Co. say she was 5 years old when her father died.)

U.S. General Land Office Records, 1796-1907 about William Sly
Name: William Sly
Issue Date: 10 Feb 1852
Acres: 40
Meridian: Michigan-Toledo Strip
State: Michigan
County: Oakland
Township: 3-N
Range: 9-E
Section: 12
Accession Number: MI0910__.233
Metes and Bounds: No
Land Office: Detroit
Canceled: No
US Reservations: No
Mineral Reservations: No
Authority: April 24, 1820: Sale-Cash Entry (3 Stat. 566)
Document Number: 30034

Grace Torrence, daughter in law of Rhoda Ann Sly who is the oldest daughter of William Wesley Sly, told this story to Gladys Porritt, grand daughter of Rhoda: " The Indians around Walled Lake called William Sly the `strong man' because every time the Indians went through Walled Lake, they had to shake hands all around. He got so tired of shaking hands that he started to squeeze their hands real tight so that it would hurt and they wouldn't ask to shake hands anymore. Hence he earned the name `the strong man'. Grace Torrence said William was a big, powerful man.

Isabella County Probate Records The petition of Elizabeth BROWN widow of William Sly, late of said county (Isabella), deceased, respectfully showeth that on or about the first day of Jan. 1863, The said William Sly died leaving goods and clothing, rights, credits, and real estate in the county, aforesaid, and that to the best of the knowledge and belief of your petitioner no last will and testament was left by the said William Sly, deceased. That the deceased has left a widow, Elizabeth Brown, your petitioner, age 37 years and six children: William, age 18, Lester, age 15, Alvan age 13, Daniel age 12, George, age 9, and Hattie, age 5: and that the deceased was immediately at his death an inhabitant of said county. Your petitioner therefore prays that letters of administration be granted on the estate of the said William Sly and that Philander Harnes may be appointed administration. signed with her X 28 July 1863

Name: William Wesley Sly
[Y Sly]
Birth Date: 22 Oct 1807
Birth Place: Ontario County, New York, USA
Death Date: 1 Jan 1863
Death Place: Isabella County, Michigan, USA
Has Bio?: Y
URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-..

William married Ashsah "Axie" DAVIS about 1831. Ashsah was born about 1811; died before 1842 in , Oakland, Michigan, United States; was buried in Walled Lake Cem, Walled Lake, Oakland, Michigan, United States. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• _UID: A86FE6CBB3D30C43AA384686109627E5FD7B

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• Occupation: Blacksmith
• Reference Number: *
• _UID: 443953896E3D5B438839A4C020A36B877CF3

Notes:

Things to do:
1. When did Christopher marry Elizabeth?
2. 1810, 1830 census

Timeline for Christopher Sly:
1779 Sep 7, Christopher born in Vermont ( According to the family bible of Rhoda Sly Pearson)
1803 Holland Purchase, New York Christopher and Benjamin Sly, T9 R2
1805 speculate that Christopher married Lodema Mack in Ontario County, NY
1807 Oct 22, son, William Wesley,
1809 Sep 1, son, Daniel
1811 Aug 18, daughter, Lucinda,
1815 Mar 21, daughter, Malinda
1815 bought 11 acres + 16 square rods in Gorham, Ontario, NY for $111
1816 Christopher on Gorham, Ontario County, NY tax list Lot 10, 61 acres
1817 May 7, daughter, Rhoda
1819 Jul 11, son, Sylvester,
1819 Christopher on Gorham, Ontario County, NY tax list lot 10 61 acres
1820 Census, Christopher Sly, Gorham, Ontario, NY
1821 Jul 11, son Benjamin,
1821 bought 21 acres from Joshua Sly in Phelps for $600
1821 Christopher on Gorham, Ontario County, NY tax list lot 10 61 acres
1822 Christopher on Hopewell, Ontario County, NY tax list lot 10 61 acres
1823 Christopher on Hopewell, Ontario County, NY tax list lot 10 61 acres
1823 Aug 13, wife Lodema, died in Hopewell
1824 Christopher on Hopewell, Ontario County, NY tax list lot 10 61 acres
1824 Christopher sold land in Gorham with wife Elizabeth; 11 acres for $300
1825 Christopher sold land in Gorham with wife Elizabeth; 21 acres for $400
1830 Christopher on Hopewell, Ontario County, NY tax list
1831 Dec 1, Christopher Land records, Detroit, MI Michigan-Toledo Strip T 2 N, R 8 E sec 28 and 33
1833 Census Michigan Territory, Christopher in Tnsp Petition.
1835 23 Nov Christopher land record, Detroit MI, Michigan-Toledo Strip T 2 N, R 8 E sec 32
1840 Census, Commerce, Oakland, Michigan
1845 Christopher died in Commerce, Oakland, Michigan at age 66, buried in Richardson Cem.


Christopher Sly, Ontario County, New York Tax list:
1816 Gorham lot 10, 16 acres
1819 " " "
1821 " " "
1822 Hopewell " " (1822 Hopewell broke off from Gorham)
1823 " " "
1824 " " "
1830 " " "

Land records, Ontario New York- Christopher Sly
1815 bought 11 acres + 16 sq rods in Gorham for $111
1821 bought 21 acres from Joshua Sly in Phelps for $600
1824 sold 11 acres + 16 sq rods in Gorham for $300 with wife Elizabeth
1825 sold 21 acres in Phelps for $400 with wife Elizabeth

1823 Sep 9 from the "Ontario Repos" -" Sly Lodama, 34, died Hopewell, Mrs. Christopher Sly"

Christopher Sly grave found in row 14, Richardson Cemetary, Commerce Twp, Oakland. Michigan. Also Elizabeth Sly, wife of Christopher, born 3 Aug 1780, died 7 Feb 1879.

1820 United States Federal Census
Name: Christopher Sly
Township: Gorham
County: Ontario
State: New York
1 2 _ _1_ / 3_ _1/ _3
(There is a William Mack in, 1820 US census NY, Ontario, Bristol 4 ___ 1/ 1__ 1 _/ _ 1 and in
1830 NY, Ontario, Bristol 1 1 2 2 _ _ _ 1 _ _ _ _ _ / 1 _ _ 1 _ _ 1 )

Michigan Census, 1827-70
Name: CHRISTOPHER SLY
State: MI
County: Michigan Territory
Township: Petitioner
Year: 1833
Database: MI Early Census Index

1840 United States Federal Census
Name: Christopher Sly
Commerce, Oakland, Michigan
_ _ __1_ _ _ _1_ _ _ _ /_ _2_ _ _ 1

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=6534161&ref=wvr
Christopher Sly
Birth: 1779
Death: Sep. 13, 1845
Burial: Walled Lake Cemetery
Walled Lake Oakland County Michigan, USA Plot: Section 1, Row 14

Christopher married Lodema MACK about 1805 in New York, United States. Lodema was born on 5 Mar 1787 in New York, United States; died on 13 Aug 1823 in Hopewell, Ontario, New York, United States. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Reference Number: *
• _MARNM: Sly
• _UID: F8D708A019E5764696006C3DCB96C8E7808C

Notes:

http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53550951/family/familygroup?fpid=13530604502

Lodema is an English name meaning "guide"
From "Early Settlers of New York State - Their Ancestors and Descendants" by Janet Wethy Foley
(West Bloomfield, NY abt 1801 - Elizabeth wife of John Mack; could this be the parents of Lodemia?)

According to the Bible of Rhoda Pearson Lodema was born March 5th 1787

from the "Ontario Repos" 9 Sep 1823 - Sly Lodama, 34, died Hopewell, Mrs. Christopher Sly

1800 United States Federal Census You searched for Mack NY+Ontario
Benjamin Mack Canandaigua, Ontario, NY 1 1 - // - 1 - 2 - 1
John Mack Hartford, Ontario, NY 2 - 2 // 2 - 4 - - 1
John Mack Bloomfield, Ontario, NY 1 1 - // 1 - 2 1 - 1 * could this be her father? see above web site
Zebulon Mack Canandaigua, Ontario, NY - - 1 // 1 1 - - - 1

1810 United States Federal Census You searched for Mack NY+Ontario
Name Residence (City,County,State) Year
Benj Mack Bristol, Ontario, NY 1810
* William Mack Bristol, Ontario, NY 1810
*Jona Mack Canandaigua, Ontario, NY 1810
*Jeb Mack Canandaigua, Ontario, NY 1810

1820 Census NY+Ontario
Asahel Mack - Canandaigua,Ontario,NY 1820
Jeremiah Mack - Sodus,Ontario,NY 1820
John Mack - Penfield,Ontario,NY 1820
* Jonathan Mack - Canandaigua,Ontario,NY 1820
*William Mack - Bristol,Ontario,NY 1820
*Zebulon Mack - Canandaigua,Ontario,NY 1820

1830 Census NY+Ontario
*William Mack - Bristol, Ontario, New York
*Jonathan Mack - Canandaigua, Ontario, New York
*Zebulon Mack - Canandaigua, Ontario, New York

1840 Census NY+Ontario
Enoch Mack - Phelps, Ontario, New York  Flavel Mack - Phelps, Ontario, New York
George Mack - Phelps, Ontario, New York

1850 Census NY+Ontario
Flavel Mack Phelps, Ontario, NY abt 1810 Connecticut
George Mack Phelps, Ontario, NY abt 1809 Connecticut
George Mack Phelps, Ontario, NY abt 1843 New York
Jonathan Mack Canandaigua, Ontario, NY abt 1781 Connecticut Jonathan Mack Canandaigua, Ontario, NY abt 1818 New York
Miles P Mack Canandaigua, Ontario, NY abt 1816 New York
Andrew E Mack Canandaigua, Ontario, NY abt 1845 New York

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Posted by: Larry Hammond (ID *****6483) Date: May 22, 2005 at 08:45:00
In Reply to: Zebulon, Benjamin and Gurdon Mack born Conn>>Canandiagua,NY by JoAnn Yellott of 1579 Bottom of Form
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This is what I have.1 Jonathan Mack----------------------------------------------Birth Date: July 1, 1731Birth Place: Lyme, New London Co., CTDeath Date: February 16, 1777Death Place: Hartland, Hartford Co., CTSpouse: Sarah BanningBirth Date: Abt. 1739Child of: Samuel BanningAnd: Hannah ?Marriage Date: Bef. 1754Marriage Place: Lyme, New London Co., CTChildren: Zebulon, Gordon, Benjamin Young1.1 Zebulon Mack----------------------------------------------Birth Date: May 1, 1754Birth Place: Lyme, New London Co., CTDeath Date: March 21, 1836Death Place: Ontario Co., NYSpouse: Mary BillBirth Date: Abt. 1755Marriage Date: 8/4/1779Marriage Place: Hartland, Hartford Co., NYChildren: Jonathan, Sarah, Hannah, William, Sally Ann1.2 Gordon Mack----------------------------------------------Birth Date: 1759Birth Place: Lyme, New London Co., CTDeath Date: 1838Spouse: Asenath PalmerBirth Date: January 30, 1761Birth Place: Bucks, Lower Makefield, PADeath Date: February 21, 1790Death Place: Bucks, Lower Makefield, PAChild of: Jonathan PalmerAnd: Ann WatsonMarriage Date: 8/1/1780Marriage Place: Hartland, CTChildren: Jonathan, Lorensa1.3 Benjamin Young Mack----------------------------------------------Birth Date: Ab. 1760Birth Place: Lyme, New London Co., CTDeath Date: Bef. 1836Death Place: Ontario Co., NYSpouse: Isabel BostwickMarriage Date: 10/30/1783Marriage Place: Hartland, CTChildren: Benjamin, William, Sally, A Daughter

HelloRecently I received from the archives at Canandaigua the probate records of Zebulon Mack.They are quite interesting and were administered by Jonathan Mack.They list his (Zeb's)brother Gurdon Mack 1/4 part of land he gave to Jonathan his son,Zeb's brother Benjamin deceased, his children William,Ben Jr. and Sally each recieve 1/6 of 1/4 part,Zeb's sister Hannah Austin,1/4 part.Also listed for 1/6 part are Marvin Van Orman and John Van Orman I think are children of John T. and Nellie Mack Van Orman.Later in 1841 there is a settlement with my grgr grandmother Sarah Munson Davis her brothers Gorham and Renselear Munson, the two daughters of Asahel Mack deceased son of Zeb, Nellie and Louisa then Dencey and James Riley Van Norman .I have another deed ordered that will I hope have a parent for the Munsons. I also copied the pension applications for Zeb and Gurdon Mack and Gurdon gives his birth in 1757.Thanks JoAnn
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